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Postby Somedude » Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:10 pm

You all probably dont care since PXR seems to be part of this server, but Skinny Spike is hacking. He denies it of course but look at his score all the time. Even good players have bad games but he never does. He was running at me, the game was showing the running animation, I open up on him, the animation stops and suddenly I'm dead. Skinny Spike kills you with Voss. Hmmmmm, I'm using the same weapon started firing earlier, didnt stray and I'm dead? Yeah dont think so. Then later I'm sniping, shoot him directly in the head but get no target hit, suddenly I'm dead again. Later sniping again, shoot him 3 times and again no kill. Same map he magically gets on top of the big cylindrical water tower like thing at the back end of the map on Tunis Harbor. Where again I snipe him multiple times without a kill.

Hes cheating. There are several programs out there that claim to be untraceable it wouldnt surprise me if hes using one. I wont be playing on your servers anymore. Hes on a lot and I hate cheaters, and magically hes almost always on the winning team.

No doubt you are saying good riddance. But I beat you to it.
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Postby Caboose » Sun Sep 30, 2007 3:06 am

First off, I do appreciate the fact that you came in here to voice your concern. However I do NOT appreciate the jabs you take at our server. If there is a problem, we, the admins look into it, whether they are a regular or not. Cheating is NOT accepted on this server, and quite frankly, it pisses me off that you come in here boasting that we don't give a shit. You had a concern. Come in here and state it. Do NOT make comments slighting our admins without at least giving us the opportunity to look into the matter.

Am I glad that you are not going to be playing on the server any longer? No. We here at aow pride ourselves on providing a fair and fun server. But rather than giving us an opportunity to look into it, you come into the forums, post up at a time in which no body is ever on the forums to give us all a big "fuck you." Luckily I JUST happened to be up this late to see this.

I am sorry you feel the way you do, but unfortunately, since you are being a dick, you just write us off without a chance. So again. Sorry you feel that way....but fuck you too.

P.S. Written by someone that doesn't fucking care.....prick.
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Postby Mara Jade » Sun Sep 30, 2007 7:55 am

Caboose is frustrated and I see his point. If you say we don't care about hackers well that strikes at my core as I am the guy who is in charge of this who she-bang called aow for the last 3-4 years. Saying that "so and so cheats" and that I won't be playing on your server anymore comes across as somebody who's frustrated from getting raped on the server. We have all been there when somebody seemingly has your number all night long. If you've played here a while do you honestly think your going to find a better server? Let's look at reasons why you won't

1) Admins - We have a strict leash on all admins. You won't get fucked with just b/c you kill and admin a couple times. We do not have children as admins either so maturity in admin decisions is a given

2) Language - The world is FULL of servers where you get kicked for saying shit, or fuck. Frankly I hear this stuff everyday in the workplace (not Wallyword, I'm building/managing a 700 million dollar Casino expansion) as do the majority of players here. There are days my wife and my job have me on the ropes and gaming here provides a let off for frustration and a release valve of emotion. You should hear other servers vent channels. You have 40 year old men and 10 year old kids. Trying gaming with them versus us. There is no equal.

3) Asshatery - Not tolerated even by admins. I carry one big ass hammer.

4) Longevity - aow started in 1999 as a cs server (read the server history on the front page). Over the years we have found a successful formula for attracting and maintaining server regulars. I think we have it down pat on how to run a server.


While you cannot please everyone we do our best to please the whole. Hopefully you come back to read this and maybe even do a newbie intro post and see that our forums and server kick ass. If you do I'll shank skinnyspike just for you. ;)


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Postby Razule » Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:20 am

It may not be my place to say so but I remember PXR Skinny Spike. He might be hard to kill but not impossible. I've sniped, grenaded, c4'd, apm'd and voss'd him right back. There's days I want to yell hacker at nearly every person playing but it normally just comes down to me having a bad gaming day.

I'm sure the admins will keep an eye on him from now on and in my opinion they're doing a great job. So stop all your unbased hating against this server and it's admins and get revenge on him.

Oh and just a side note just because he's in your crosshairs with the sniper rifle doesn't mean it's going to hit. I've aimed for the chest/head of people pleanty of times and had no respons then the next shot is a direct hit. Occasionally I've wasted 5 rounds while the person is standing there spinnding arround trying to find out where it's coming from.

As for you not killing him when YOU started firing first. This is a server hit game. meaning the one with the better ping has the advantage. even if he started half a second to a full second late and he only has a 20-50ms better ping than you the servers sometimes gives the first hit to them. Lag's a bitch man.
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Postby =PXR= Loraxe » Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:27 pm

I do not know if I am allowed to respond, you can delete this if I am out of line guys.

I have known and been gaming with Skinny for years and we are both on the board of =PXR= and I can say with authority that no-one hates cheaters and hackers more than Skinny. Before you go off and pre-judge him, this server or the fine group that runs it for you, I beg you to do your homework first. Ok, maybe take a breath, count to ten and then do your homework. I urge you to go to Punkbuster and Punkbusted and do a search on the person or clan you think is hacking, remember once a cheater, almost always a cheater. Then check out the clan or organization that the suspected belongs to and/or is affiliated with. Both =PXR= and A.O.W. have a L-O-N-G history of playing FPS not only for the fun of it, but also as top-notch comp teams and running quality game servers. Hacking or cheating in A.O.W. or =PXR= is an instant PermaBan and it ALWAYS has been. We have a strict no-tolerance policy for this kind of behavior and our members know it.

Consider the possibility that there exists a relatively small group of FPS players out there that are GOOD, Really Good. So good, that they have sponsors and play or have played professionally. They do exist. We are fortunate at =PXR= to have several of them. They know the games and the platforms, the maps, the best weapons and they have practiced. Practiced more hours that you can imagine. They sleep with their freakin machines and dream of new and faster ways to kill you within the parameters of fair play. We do push server rules, but always operate within the normal game mechanics. Always. Usually they specialize. Skinny is best as a squad lead, assault or Commander. Whereas I am better as commander or squadlead. I am sneaky but not as good a shooter as Skinny. This takes some self reflection, but you have to accept that there really are guys out there that are just plain better. Yes, even nine times out of ten better. Toe to Toe, Skinny is just frickin good. Great reflexes and he knows exactly where to shoot, and for how long to conserve ammo. He also runs a superior machine and has a great connection speed.

Think of the difference between a weekend warrior in the reserves and someone who is a Green Beret. Please remember we are not saying that YOU are not good. What I am saying is that Skinny, at this particular time, is just plain Better. Unbeatable? Certainly not.

What can you do about it when this happens?

You have several options:

Go away--- Works for you, but doesn't resolve anything (women would do this)

Confront us and then go away---- Again, works for you, but doesn't really resolve anything (also a bit cowardly-accuse us but do not let us defend-also an easy way out for you)

Jump in vent and get to know us--- Great option! Within an hour of just listening to Skinny and the rest of us interacting you would realize that your first impression (as is often the case) was TOTALLY WRONG.

Practice your ASS off and come back and get REVENGE--- Also a grest option! Skinny (and the rest of us) love a challenge! Throw down against him and come collect his tags after you own his pathetic-weakskilled-ass! (This may take some time and an investment into a new machine)

Join us and learn from the *Master*--- Sounds sorta Gay but it is a really good option. Remember--"If you can't beat 'em...get a bigger gun!" No, seriously Join up and help us own and add your skills to our arsenal. You will learn tons just by squading up with us and A.O.W. is always looking for Men Of Quality to help out around here and you will make some cool new friends.

You could also whine and cry like a little bitch about how awful and mean we are-but if I catch you spreading lies about me and my friends I swear I will find you and...

I urge you to make the right choice and come in, meet us, have a beer and stay a while. If you see serious problems in this house, you don't fix them by throwing rocks from the outside. Pick up a fucking hammer and come in and get your ass to work and help 'fix' the problems you see. This place does not run by itself. Rmember there are guys here that really care about this server and making sure everything is running as smoothly as it can. An occasional 'thank you', instead of just mindless bitching, is most welcome.

Please PM me if you would like to discuss things more. I look forward to hearing from you.


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Postby Mara Jade » Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:59 pm

For the record aow and PXR are not affiliated at all. The PXR guys play here b/c they like the server.

Good post though loraxe.
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Cheating in general

Postby Somedude » Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:43 pm

I'll start off with sorry. That was crappy of me to question your integrity before giving you a chance. With his attitude on the server and the first thing I see is something about PXR stuff, I wasnt expecting anyone to listen.

I've been playing awhile I can tell when things dont add up. I can tell when someone is good and when someone is doing something fishy. My pings are good, I'm not lagging. Its normally as good as or better than most peoples. I've been sniped from all over the place from people I dont even see and die multiple times from the same person and dont cry foul. But when someone is in plain view of nearly everyone, I have to start wondering. Half the team (yes I'm exaggerating but there were several people), even though the team was pretty pathetic, is shooting and cant get em theres something going on. If it was one event or maybe two, I can see it, but its multiple times on mutliple maps. Not to mention hes sniping with a sniper rifle and ringing up 33 kills and 5 deaths. Not thats its that impossible, I've managed 32 and 0 but that was in an apc with a good driver. If he were hiding well, I might buy it but he was in plain view constantly, not even good cover. Even the pathetic team I was on should've shot him.

Take a look see what you see.
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Postby SkinnySpike » Sun Sep 30, 2007 6:26 pm

Okay SomeDude ... I've gotta reply. I truly regret that you believe that I would hack or cheat. Please look up my stats ... you will see that they are good but certainly not in the "hacker" or "cheater" range.

I did look at your stats (assuming you are "theothercro"). You are still wet behind the ears and need a bit more experience before you start accusing people of hacking. Please look at the number of hours I play and consider that the majority of play is in a squad with members that I play with on a regular basis. We are also communicating on Ventrilo and not VOIP. We revive each other, point out enemies, etc.

If I could give you full access to my system to scan for hacks and cheats I would gladly do so. I don't hack or cheat. I might spin the pod 10-15 feet but that is the extent of my "cheats".

Bottom line, AOW is an awesome group, they run a great server, and I am thankful they allow myself and other PXR members to play and post.

You got owned... live with it, practice, and bring it on!

P.S. 32 and 0 in an APC is good. I usually die at least 2-3 times but end up with the silver in most cases. Come ride with me in "the Love Bus" sometime on Belgrade. Feel free to ask my gunners ... I hate to gun, love to drive, and usually put a Gold Medal on my gunner.

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Re: Cheating in general

Postby Razule » Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:20 pm

Somedude wrote:... I've managed 32 and 0 but that was in an apc with a good driver...


Nice 32/0 I've managed 26/0 with a sniper kit (some were demo's/apm) and 35/2 (vehicle not used in either case). While i'll agree it'd be fishy if he lived while sniping in the middle of a group of enemies I've managed to snipe 1 person then hand gun another before being killed by the third person. While at the time it may seem like the person is cheating usually it's summed up to a combination of the following.

1. computer's ability to process and ping to server relative to theirs

2. Your reflexes and kit vs. theirs

3. Skill. While no one likes to admit that they got owned by someone with superior skills it does happen. I sniped 1 person 17 times in a row because he couldn't shoot my head (a medic was nice and left the healing pack but i only got hit twice anyways). Finally i stood up and let him kill me cause i was out of ammo. Several people on their team weren't happy. i can see why. out of the 27 shots that gun gives i killed 22 people... plus the one that came up the ladder which i knifed.

4. LUCK!!! yes that's right luck! it is possible that just as you're about to fire they crouch/prone. due to that you're wasting ammo while redirecting and thus didn't have enough to actually kill him. If he was strafing the other team mates you had may not have been aiming right (which is why bunny hoppers are #@#^&@#$^@#$%@... you get the idea). On the other side he was able to keep you in his sights and then take out your buddies the same way. As said above he's usually a squad leader. his squad mates could have been near by but outside of your view and were shooting your team mates and maybe even you.

5. the misc sniper assisted kill. It is possible there was another sniper that shot you and your team mates just before he shot them. as such it seems like he killed you all really fast but it was actually a 3rd party that did the dmg and he just finished the job. When you're being shot how much time do you have to examine your health bar? And sadly you can't see if someone got a kill assist for your death.

Basically like them i'm saying cool it. Take a breather. then jump back in and get them back. There's a reason why i play games like BF2142. it's the HUMAN element in it. A computer will always do things a certain way. While most humans follow a pattern if needed they can break that pattern to adapt to situations. if he's killing you in close combat then kill from afar. if you can't hit him with the sniper rifle use all it's upgrades (or practice more). OR my favorite option. set a trap and hide. as he said he's a squad lead. chances are he'll be in a group. set up a apm or demo trap and wait for his group to come arround.

With all that in mind i'll leave this thought.
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Postby h4ven » Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:10 am

15-0 sitting in my ground defense station :D
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Postby D@FFY » Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:55 pm

Here's some of my best scores (that I remembered to get screenies of):

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No hacks involved, but I must admit I'm not to the point where I can just do this all the time. Both of the 2142 screens were while I was in a walker and APC respectively and had a commander dropping crates on me =P

The CS screens were of me just raping bitches with an AK on our old CS server.

You guys can go back on topic now =P
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Postby Mara Jade » Tue Oct 02, 2007 6:09 am

I was on that day you were 22-0 with the ak. Sometimes I think we need to fire up a source server and go duke it out again.

But yeah I think a lot has been said and I have nothing to add. Hopefully the thread starter chooses to hang around and do an intro post.
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Postby ChucKhu$tle » Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:33 am

If you stick around long enough dude you too can get skinny's tags. (not easy) :wink:
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See, not invincible, just good. I only know skinny from the server but he is definately on the up and up, had some epic moments with skinny, but, I think the best memory I have of the PXR guys was coming around the corner in Belgrade and I swear ALL of them were there, yeah I died..... it was epic though. :lol:
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Postby SkinnySpike » Tue Oct 02, 2007 12:49 pm

this has been a great thread ... I rarely post, usually don't have anything worthwhile to say (no different this time) but this one has been fun

I hope that is an old screen shot -- I broke the 200 mark (finally) and this one shows me at 208!

TAGS?? Shit, I get knifed more than most since I don't expect anyone to get that close. Until the last few weeks I did not even attempt to take tags. However, since I get so much shit for using the Voss I've been trying to play other kits - such as Sniper. Having a Zeller out in close quarters pretty much sucks. I've had to learn to switch to the knife, rush in, and jump like a fucking rabbit (yes, bunny hopping). Even then the damn Clark eats my lunch.

I too hope the poster comes around ... I did invite him to join me in the Love Bus (a.k.a. APC).
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Postby h4ven » Tue Oct 02, 2007 1:08 pm

Off topic side note:

I've sort of lost enjoyment with the knife for one reason or another. Back in the CS days, it was the best thing in the world, right after the mac10/TMP kills.

Maybe it's the difficulty, but pistol kills make me happy as they seem to be the hardest for me. I've aimed for the head with the pistol and it's still not a 1 hit kill. Either that or I suck. A few pecks will usually make them wise and next thing I know, I'm toast.
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